Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.
Latest episodes
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1 h 01
What Every Executive Woman Should Know About Perimenopause
What Every Executive Woman Should Know About Perimenopause with Dr. Jessica Kassis OB-GYN Dr. Jessica Kassis missed her own perimenopause for a year - until her primary care doctor…
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12 min
HubSpot Layoff Memo: What She Got Right and Wrong
HubSpot CEO Yamini Rangan shared a layoff memo for 660 employees. As longtime operators, Meg and Amy break down what she got right (and wrong) about leading with clarity, humanity,…
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1 h 04
AI Won't Fix a Broken Process: Stacey Harris Shares Survey Data
AI won't fix a broken process — it makes outcomes worse. Stacey Harris shares new results from the 29th Annual HR Systems Survey on what actually drives better outcomes. Former tec…
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37 min
The Future of People Analytics Isn't About (Just) People
People analytics has spent years analyzing people. Now it needs to analyze the work. Recorded live at People Analytics World, Meg Bear and Amy Wilson make the case that as AI chang…
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8 min
Why Conway's Law Matters More in the Age of AI
Why do Sales, Customer Success, and Engineering keep hitting the same friction? In this hot take, Meg Bear and Amy Wilson break down Conway's Law — the idea that your org structure…
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59 min
Hidden Ways to Grow Without More Hires or Funding | Jason Cohen
Serial founder Jason Cohen shares hidden ways to grow without more hires or funding from his book Hidden Multipliers. Meg Bear and Amy Wilson dig into why negative reviews boost sa…
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1 h 03
Why AI Fails Without a New Operating Model with Kelley Steven-Waiss
Your AI tools aren't broken. Your operating model is. Meg Bear and Amy Wilson sit down with Kelley Steven-Waiss, Founder of Novaworks, former CHRO, founder of Hitch (acquired by Se…
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1 h 03
Why Enterprise AI Fails at Work Design, Not Agents | Siobhan Savage
Enterprise AI isn't failing because agents aren't smart enough — it's failing at work design. Reejig CEO Siobhan Savage joins Meg Bear and Amy Wilson to reframe AI transformation f…
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1 h 04
The Future of Work Has AI Agents in It. Payroll Isn't Ready. | Eynat Guez, Papaya Global
The future of work has AI agents in it — and payroll isn't ready. Eynat Guez, co-founder and CEO of Papaya Global, joins Meg and Amy to explain why the 2030 workforce is humans and…
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50 min
⭐ We Tried GLP-1. Here's What Actually Happened. | Meg & Amy
🚀 Two years in, and Amy and Meg bring the data. GLP-1 results, body composition breakthroughs, the metabolic reframe no one told them about — and the leadership question hiding ins…
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1 h 04
You’re not broken. The system is. | Laurie Ruettimann
🚀 Laurie Ruettimann has been saying the things HR won't say for twenty years — and she's starting to wonder if any of it worked. In this conversation, she argues that most advice i…
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1 h 08
Episode 50 | Your People Don't Have Change Fatigue. They Have Failure Fatigue | Jess Von Bank
🚀 Jess Von Bank has spent 20+ years on every side of the HR tech problem — vendor, buyer, analyst, practitioner. She co-founded Now to Next to close the distance between an AI stra…
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Episode 49 | The Skill AI Can't Do For You — And the Career It Builds
🚀 AI didn't add a new chapter to the software story — it restarted the book at page one. In this solo episode, Meg and Amy explain why that makes sensemaking the scarce skill right…
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54 min
Episode 48 | You're not unmoored. You're unchained. | Nick Mehta
🚀 You're Not Unmoored. You're Unchained. | Nick Mehta on identity, reinvention, and the AI reckoning hitting every SaaS company. After stepping down as Gainsight CEO, Nick joins Me…
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Episode 47| The AI Rush of 2025 Set the Skills Agenda Back. Here's What Comes Next | David Blake
🚀 The AI rush of 2025 didn't move the skills agenda forward — it stalled it. That's the contrarian read from the founder of Degreed, the company built to make skills the currency o…
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Episode 46 | Are You Making Me Money or Saving Me Money? | Maria Colacurcio
🚀 Maria Colacurcio asked her own AI agent to pull a code repository. Three times. It refused — and directed her to men on her team. That moment is the throughline of an episode abo…
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Episode 45 | Your Experience Just Became a Tax. Here's What Still Pays
🚀 Amy and Meg dig into Jaya Gupta's "experience is now a tax" frame — and what actually survives when AI makes credentials look like overhead. Learn why the most golden job for the…
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59 min
Episode 44 | Running Pilots Is Not a Strategy. It Never Was. | Charlene Li
🚀 Running Pilots Is Not a Strategy: Charlene Li — three-decade authority on disruptive leadership and co-author of Winning with AI: The 90-Day Blueprint for Success — breaks down t…
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Episode 43 | You Don't Have an AI Problem — You Have a Constraint Problem | Han Yuan
Han-Shen Yuan — who led mobile engineering at eBay and Netflix and took Upwork to IPO as SVP of Engineering — explains why AI transformation is a constraint problem before it's a s…
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1 h 03
Episode 42 | Your AI transformation has a shelf life — and it's getting shorter
Amy and Meg go solo to revisit the five threads they called at the start of the season — and find them converging and accelerating faster than anyone predicted. A wide-ranging conv…