Outward, Slate's queer podcast, is a whip-smart monthly salon in which hosts and guests deepen the audience’s understanding of queer culture and politics, delight them with unexpected perspectives, and invite listeners into a colorful conversation about the issues animating LGBTQ communities. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes
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When We All Get to Heaven: 2026 Signal Listener's Choice Award Finalist
If you’d like to support our podcast and show everyone how important and impactful this story is, we hope you will take a moment to vote for us for The Signal Listener’s Choice Awa…
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So Long Outward, Long Live the Gay Agenda!
Eight years ago, Slate editor Bryan Lowder and writer Christina Cauterucci, with the help of producer June Thomas, kick-started a new podcast that aimed to enrich and expand the co…
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When We All Get to Heaven Just Won a Peabody Award!
Slate and the team at Eureka Street Productions are so honored by this award and want to thank everyone who has listened to and supported the show. This series tells the story of t…
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60 min
Beyond Gay Marriage
Our friends at Selects bring you this documentary from 2010 looking at the debate among LGBTQ folks in San Francisco around the fight for gay marriage and the cost of that fight bo…
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30 min
A Postlude for 'When We All Get to Heaven'
As When We All Get to Heaven wraps up, Christina sits down with series host Lynne Gerber and producer Siri Colom. They discuss how the church has changed, the value of fleeting que…
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10: AIDS Isn’t Over | When We All Get to Heaven
In the final episode of When We All Get to Heaven, we catch up on what’s happened in the many years between the emergence of effective treatment for AIDS in the late ‘90s and the f…
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51 min
9: AIDS Energy | When We All Get to Heaven
In 1996 everything changed. With the introduction of antiretroviral medications called the “AIDS cocktail,” people started getting better – some dramatically – and surviving AIDS b…
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58 min
8: Conversion | When We All Get to Heaven
In 1995 Rev. Jim Mitulski became HIV positive -- what's known as seroconversion. It was 14 years into the epidemic and people knew what HIV/AIDS was, how you got it, and how you co…
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47 min
7: Dress Rehearsals | When We All Get to Heaven
Scott and Bruce were the hottest couple in church. Scott, a hula dancer, seemed destined for Bruce, the hunky “lumbersexual,” and the church delighted when they got together. Their…
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31 min
Interlude: Tired of Dying | When We All Get to Heaven
The Sunday after Magic Johnson announced his HIV-status, Jim Mitulski preached a sermon on being tired of people dying. We’re sharing it as an interlude, a pause, and an immersion…
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6: Attacked | When We All Get to Heaven
San Francisco’s gay/lesbian community in the 1980s wasn’t just facing an AIDS crisis, they also struggled against ongoing anti-gay violence. In 1989, in the midst of a campaign to…
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54 min
5: Healing Without a Cure | When We All Get to Heaven
When Rev. Ron Russell Coons got diagnosed with AIDS he thought a lot about what healing meant when death was certain. He pursued it in his strained and broken family relationships…
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48 min
4: Friends in the Fire | When We All Get to Heaven
As MCC grew as a denomination, they tried to figure out if and how to relate to other churches. Would any befriend a queer church? And if so, would that friendship help other churc…
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3: “A Church with AIDS” | When We All Get to Heaven
In the late ‘80s, two MCC San Francisco ministers wrote an article called “We Are the Church Alive, the Church with AIDS.” We wanted to know how a gay/lesbian church came to call i…
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2: A New Gospel for Gay Sinners | When We All Get to Heaven
Why would an out queer person in the Gay Liberation Days of the 1970s go to church? What church would they go to? And why would they stay? In the 1960s, and ‘70s, the separation be…
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30 min
Making ‘When We All Get to Heaven’
As Outward proudly presents the 10-episode series When We All Get to Heaven, from Eureka Street Productions, Christina and Bryan had the privilege of sitting down with series host…
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26 min
1: Setting The Table | When We All Get to Heaven
In 1993, more than 10 years into the AIDS epidemic, the Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco (MCC-SF) tries to remember all they’ve lost. We think about remembering too a…
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Introducing: When We All Get to Heaven
When We All Get to Heaven tells the story of one of the first LGBTQ-positive churches, the Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco (MCC-SF), and how it faced the personal, s…
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26 min
From What Next: Trans and Shut Out in Trump’s America
Trans rights and access to health care have been under attack on the state level for years, but the second Trump administration and the Supreme Court have accelerated a chilling ef…
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26 min
From What Next: Trans and Shut Out in Trump’s America
Trans rights and access to health care have been under attack on the state level for years, but the second Trump administration and the Supreme Court have accelerated a chilling ef…